Lana Milner (00:02):
Hello, welcome to the podcast. Today I am in the cold Canadian north and Laura is basking next to a pool
with a mimosa in her hand.
Laura Thomson (00:13):
It’s actually coffee and Bailey’s, but Mamosas will come next.
Lana Milner (00:18):
Fair enough, fair enough. So Laura is on location, she’s on location. She doesn’t have the best internet,
so bear with us because it is what it is down there and that’s okay. And she’s actually going without a
microphone today. So I am all the things
Laura Thomson (00:35):
Internet, no microphone.
Lana Milner (00:36):
We’re putting Doug to work today though. We are going to delve into a topic that’s actually very dear to
Laura and me because mindset is everything, Laura. We talk to our clients about mindset all the time.
We know that having that positivity, foremost and in front will change your trajectory
Laura Thomson (00:59):
Or the opposite. Having the negative mindset and having a different viewpoint will change your
trajectory too. So yeah, mindset matters.
Lana Milner (01:07):
Mindset matters. And if you believe something, it’s probably true. And I’ll never phrase, I sit on that a
lot. If you believe it, it’s probably going to be true and that, I mean you can call it whatever you want.
Mindset, manifestation, whatever you think. It probably is true.
Laura Thomson (01:21):
Yeah, if you believe it, it’s true.
Lana Milner (01:24):
Yeah. Our guests today are really going to dive into the whole mindset mentality. It’s incredible. They’ve
gone viral for their incredible documentary called Would You Eat a Donut a Day? They are math teachers
turned Diet disruptors. And when it comes to mindset, they really have a lot to say. They’re going to set
the records straight, that’s for sure. So let’s sit back and woman up with Jo and Alicia from your Way.
Weight loss roll the opener. Hello ladies.
Laura Thomson (02:04):
Hello guys.
Josee Cormier (02:06):
Hello.
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Laura Thomson (02:07):
We,
Lana Milner (02:08):
Oh, I
Josee Cormier (02:08):
Got chills. That was exciting. I almost wanted to be like
Laura Thomson (02:13):
Side effects
Lana Milner (02:14):
Let’s make this, we are really thrilled to have you on the podcast today. And as we noted, Laura’s far
down south basking by the pool. We’ll actually she’s not right now, but we are often, I feel like in Canada
we are stuck inside for nine months of the year and your mindset suffers.
Josee Cormier (02:36):
Oh, absolutely. Just coming off the deep dark winter, I really connected with your intro because we
often say that if you believe that you cannot lose weight or that you’re broken, then you most likely are.
And it’s not. And we definitely agree with what you’re saying and it’s not fun to hear sometimes and it’s
like rah. But at the same time, people need to keep hearing that the way they think really has an impact
on their life. And isn’t it true that people need to realize that more and more and then work on how
they think more than anything else?
Lana Milner (03:14):
Let’s rewind a little bit because you guys started, your weight loss was Josee, you did in 2012, and it
really was born of a different mindset than typical diets or crazes or fads. Can you kind of rewind and let
us know a little bit about that?
Josee Cormier (03:32):
Absolutely. At the end of the day, your weight loss was created out of me being frustrated with what I
was being offered to be able to lose the weight that I wanted to lose. And what I was offered as whether
it’s diets or ways to lose weight, they weren’t working. I was losing the weight but regaining it back. And
I really, for me, the definition of success is while I’m losing my weight, I’m happy. While I’m losing my
weight, I’m in control and no one’s telling me what to do. And that wasn’t offered to anyone. It almost
like didn’t exist. People weren’t allowing me to be me and losing weight almost telling me that’s not
really a way you have to eat this way. You have to not the rules or the point counting or whatever. And I
was like, I find that kind of ridiculous because I see my friends who are not struggling with excess fat or
wanting to lose weight, not having to count points and not having to have these, don’t eat a banana
after 3:00 PM rules.
(04:30):
And so for me it was just experience of so frustrated with what I was being offered in the diet industry.
And so once I kind of let go of the diet industry and created my way, I reali and my way did include
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keeping the weight off. And I was like, because I worked on my way, I realized that there are certain
things that need to be worked on for you, whoever is trying to lose weight to create their way. So even I
did it my way. It doesn’t mean my weight, the weight loss way, it’s that what I worked on to create my
way. Exactly. So I really wanted that message out there. So that’s how I created your way weight loss
and it kind of grew from there.
Laura Thomson (05:10):
And I love that cause the idea of giving up those things that you love and you crave and that become
part of your happy place just to lose weight. That’s the saddest part for me. Right. No one likes to do it
and that’s why your mindset goes negative cause you’re having to give up everything.
Josee Cormier (05:25):
And I mean, it’s not our fault. That is what was sold to us for years. That is what the diet industry has
been telling us. You can’t do this on your own. You need us, you need this plan, you need this way, you
need. So I mean if people are listening and they’re like, but that’s how I feel. I mean it’s not your fault.
Yeah. That’s the content you’ve been taking in, that’s the information you’ve been given. And so it’s just
time for you to change your mindset and your beliefs around weight loss to be able to approach it in a
different way.
Lana Milner (05:55):
Yeah. We’ve been conditioned almost to that. It’s an all or nothing mentality. It’s all one swing of the
pendulum or the other and there’s no in between or you’re not going to be successful.
Josee Cormier (06:06):
Yeah, basically you would lose weight outside of your life. It’s like two, it’s a double life almost like le
leave your life on the side for a bit just so you can create weight loss and it really shouldn’t be the focus.
Weight loss should just be a byproduct of you finally chasing your happiness, your priorities, your values.
Weight loss can be a byproduct of that, but it shouldn’t be the focus of your weight loss journey, which
is a different way of seeing it for short.
Lana Milner (06:29):
So at what point did you say, okay, I’m a math teacher by day, but by night I’m like, no, the world needs
to hear my story. The world needs to know that this is possible. And what was your, I guess your woman
up your all-in moment where you said, screw it, goodbye schools, let’s do this.
Josee Cormier (06:48):
Okay, well that was five years in. So the first five years of ure weight loss, I was doing both. So teacher
by week, ure, weight loss my weekend. It was passion. I knew that I was making a difference and I knew
that I had a way to help women feel that power within them. I can do this, this does exist. You have to
show by example. You have to have that knowing because knowledge is one thing, but when you have,
knowing, when you’ve lived through the weight loss journey multiple times and you’ve, you’ve been
through that industry, that’s when you have a lot of, you are more relatable to my clients or to our
members. And that was pretty much it. I was like, I want to be in charge of what’s being, it’s like I
wanted to be in charge of what was being told to women. I needed, this did not exist. So I wanted to
create it.
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Lana Milner (07:43):
Amazing. I wanted to ask you, okay, so it was just over two years ago now that you guys had a
documentary made and I think it really supported because when I heard the title I was like, oh, this is
another one of those documentaries. To be honest, I thought, oh, she’s going to eat Tim Horton’s every
day for a month and they’re going to get sick and they’re going to gain a bunch of weight. I thought it
was the opposite. So when I watched it, honestly, I was laughing all the way through. I thought, this is
freaking brilliant. And so it’s called a donut a day. You ate Tim Horton’s every single day. So was this,
every meal was Tim Horton’s
Josee Cormier (08:24):
Every single meal, everything that we ate that was So the only rule going in is we would not suffer. We
would not be hungry all the time. And we would eat only off the Tim Horton’s menu for one month. We
did choose February. So it was actually just last year you girls. So it was just 2022.
Lana Milner (08:44):
Oh, it was 2022. Okay. Wow. And so eight days,
Josee Cormier (08:47):
The rule was also to write everything down, to track it, track it so that we would have data at the end of
our documentary.
Lana Milner (08:54):
Amazing. And I laughed so hard when Alicia, I think it was you that said, did you know that a Boston
cream donor only has 200 calories? Oh my gosh. I burst out laughing. It was like, Hey, that is so
relatable.
Alicia Stafford (09:07):
I’m so happy that you enjoyed that and thank you. We are so incredibly proud of that piece of content
and we wanted to make it, there is a message there, but it’s also extremely entertaining and we’re so
proud of that. We’re very proud of that piece. I feel like if anyone’s listening and you’re like, I want to
know more about these girls, I think it’s a great way to know more about us personally as well, our
personalities, our dynamic, but also more about our message and kind of what our goal is and mission.
At your weight, weight loss,
Laura Thomson (09:37):
What was your expectation? What did you think was going to happen? What did you think you were
going to gain weight? Did you have no idea or
Josee Cormier (09:46):
I knew we were going to lose weight. Yeah, same. I just knew it in such a controlled environment, only
just being so limited. I wasn’t going to drink alcohol, which is a big part of who I am. She wasn’t going to
eat her kid scraps, which is a big part. So there’s less opportunity to consume more calories. I just knew
we were going to lose weight. I didn’t ever think we were going to lose the amount we did. I think
there’s also the conversation of even weight loss. So right now we’re talking about weight loss and we’re
talking about the fact that we’ve lost weight eating all of those, all of that takeout and donuts and we’re
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talking about it in a very positive light. Oh my God, you guys lo lost weight doing that. We knew we were
going to lose weight because we’re in a controlled environment, just like any other meal plan showing
you that it doesn’t matter what’s on the meal plan.
(10:32):
When you’re in that kind of restraint environment, chances are you’re going to consume less than that
flexibility every single day. Whatever. Doesn’t mean it’s good. Doesn’t mean that that’s success. We lost
weight, but we were also feeling so deprived eating donuts every day because we couldn’t be ourselves.
Right? Yeah. I couldn’t go on date night. I couldn’t eat my kids’ scraps. That’s like who I am. That’s like a
part of me. And she couldn’t drink alcohol. That’s a part. She couldn’t be social, she couldn’t like, it just
like doesn’t. And that’s what happens when you’re on meal plans. I was eating separate to my family,
which is such a massive piece of my value in my home, is that we all sit and eat together and just, yes,
my values were not a part of that and that doesn’t work. And that that’s what happens when we do that
traditional diet. We’re following someone else’s values.
Laura Thomson (11:19):
You lose your happy place, you lose the things that make you, and that’s any mindset and your daily
everything. If you’re removing the things that really are fulfilling your heart and your soul and making
you feel like yourself, that’s when your mindset becomes negative every time.
Josee Cormier (11:34):
Yeah. Well authenticity is a priority you guys in life. Authenticity should be top priority for everyone
listening, I feel like we don’t talk about it enough, but there’s val value in authenticity behind happiness
and consistency and all the things that make a human successful.
Lana Milner (11:49):
And knowing yourself. I think about it now, when you go to a restaurant, you go anywhere. Even if you
look at the placards at a fast food restaurant, it’ll te tell you the calorie count. And I, at first I thought,
okay, that’s a really good idea that I can make the choice. And I loved how you guys said that. She said,
I’m not telling you about the calories because you should feel bad. I’m telling you because you are the
boss. And I was just like, that’s hit me in the face. I was like, yeah, okay. I can stop looking it that way.
Because otherwise you start to, you’ll be sitting at a lunch and somebody gets the tacos that are 300
calories and you want to have that poke bowl that’s 1300 calories. Are you talking by lunch anymore?
Stop shaming yourself. Totally talking about you by the way. But at the end of the day, you are the boss
and you’re in charge and you can make those informed decisions.
Josee Cormier (12:38):
We always do money with calories. It’s people have less emotions attached with money as they do with
calories. Weight loss is such an emotional personal experience. So if you were going to the store and you
saw a shirt that you liked, what is one of the things that you would do before you walk to the cash
register with that shirt? You would probably just look at the price and maybe if you were an Old Navy,
you wouldn’t even look, cause you know about ish how much that’s going to cost you an Old Navy. But if
you’re in this boutique, is that shirt worth $300 to you $3,000? And you know what? They could be
worth it to you and not to you. And that’s okay. So we’re possible leaving space for us to make our
choices. And you know, didn’t get to finish that story a little bit, but what I was thinking while you were
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saying was the guilt and the shame of your choice and that’ss what we need that, I mean, that was a big
part of our documentary is that yes, we need to stop the shame of eating a donut.
(13:35):
There’s nothing wrong with eating a donut. Your perception of it has been blinded by the diet industry
and seen as bad. And so we think that the donut is the issue, but it’s actually our relationship with the
donut making us feel guilt about the donut making us eat two more or go to the ice cream next or
whatever. And so relationship with food was a big part of our documentary for sure.
Lana Milner (14:03):
It’s no accident you found our podcast. Chances are you’re looking for something.
Laura Thomson (14:08):
Years ago when we founded the Sister brand, we were desperate for honest direction.
Lana Milner (14:12):
We binge podcasts and go down endless rabbit holes. Just trying to find anything, anyone to offer some
aha advice.
Laura Thomson (14:20):
Oh boy. We have spent so much time and money on coaching calls that just really told us what we
already knew
Lana Milner (14:26):
And that’s why now our company, the sister brand helps women find their fire.
Laura Thomson (14:31):
We’ve combined our decades of experience in education, communications, marketing and business to
connect women with their purpose and design the life they want to live.
Lana Milner (14:40):
Our empowerment call is your one-on-one, Kickstarter, no bs, just the finger on the pulse kind of
direction and advice we wish we had had all those years ago.
Laura Thomson (14:50):
No matter where you are in the world, we’ve got your back book, your empowerment call with us and
Woman Up with the sister brand@thesisterbrand.com.
Lana Milner (14:59):
Yeah, absolutely. And it was really funny to watch you drive through the streets trying to handle donuts
and how many people really, you guys have to watch this documentary because I really did laugh all the
way through and when you say we get to see your personalities. Yeah, hell yeah. It was so funny. And
again, very relatable es especially I think for this season that we’re in our lives where we really are trying
to take better care of ourselves, but also being more aware.
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Josee Cormier (15:25):
Yeah, absolutely. I think that right now, society, our culture is very focused on numbers and as much as
we’re seeing a trend out of the thinner is better, we see it on social media, we see different sizes on
social media, we see it with our eyes, but I think it, it’s deeper than that. We still have so much work to
do and we’re still, as a society, I think very much focusing so much on numbers and calories and dinner
and smaller. And I think we need to shift our focus on how who we are and what we’re trying to, how
are we trying to show up who greater than what, who we are as people. I think we’re still living in a
society that is struggling with depression and anxiety and stress. And so I think if we all shifted our focus
and not only made weight loss about being thinner or a smaller number of the scale or the amount of
calories, but more, it is a byproduct of me prioritizing who I want to be. That’s what weight loss should
be. It’s out of love for life. It’s out of love for yourself because you deserve that. Weight loss can be such
a beautiful journey and it’s hard for us to be in that industry and to see it have such a taboo negative
conversation behind weight loss when that’s not how we approach it. It shouldn’t be the focus, but it
can be a byproduct of you chasing finally who you want to be,
Lana Milner (16:44):
Your authentic self.
Josee Cormier (16:46):
Exactly. And women have been chasing dieting, chasing thinner bodies, pleasing everyone else in their
lives for so long that some women come to us and they’re like, I don’t know who I want to be. Or even
they’re broken.
Lana Milner (17:02):
Broken
Josee Cormier (17:02):
And they don’t even know. We say, okay, make choices based on your values. I don’t know what I value.
Do I actually value sitting as a family or do I just think I should do I actually value nutrient dent or
because I think I should. So there’s so much, I’m pressure social pressure, so much social
Laura Thomson (17:21):
Pressure. It’s so much noise.
Josee Cormier (17:23):
We say that all the so much so loud. It’s
Laura Thomson (17:27):
So loud. And we find this all the time with our clients too. They come to us and we say, well, who are
you? What is your style? What do you like? I have no idea.
Josee Cormier (17:35):
What is
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Lana Milner (17:35):
The first thing you wake up and think of? Yeah,
Laura Thomson (17:38):
Yeah. They’re told I doing this trend or that trend or this is hot on Instagram. This is not that you just
lose yourself.
Josee Cormier (17:45):
Yeah, no. And there’s not enough space to be yourself. And I think that’s what, so when people join our
program, it’s so different. The first month is really focused on learning who you are today about your
values, your happiness, because we need to get that almost not out of the way, but it’s such an
important part of the focus for you to create your way. You cannot create your way when you’re just
dieting and you’re doing something that you think you should be doing. That’s not your way. You’re
actually just putting yourself on a diet again as you have done for years. So the only way you can build
up your way to lose the weight and that it becomes a byproduct of how you show up. You need to know
how you ought to show up. And it needs to be authentic, like authenticity.
(18:28):
I think we all agree that in success in marriage and business and weight loss, consistency is important.
Consistency is all that matters. It’s not perfection, but you need to be consistent. You cannot be
consistent with something if you are not authentic. After a while, your authentic self, your true self is
going to show up and it’s going to be the all or nothing. You’re going to go back to you. And I think we’ve
never been allowed to lose weight our way. We’ve never been allowed to do that. It’s like we, we’ve
never given us the chance and we definitely don’t think we can. Women don’t think they can. And they d
we say this in the documentary, you raise humans, you pay bills, you can choose what you want to eat
though. You don’t need someone to tell you what to eat. But it’s, it’s been years of being told and
thinking that we need that. We’ve literally been told, you cannot do this on your own. You need meat
because it’s how people sell their program.
Lana Milner (19:21):
So with your program and it being so mindset focused, how does that trickle down into everyday lives?
So yes, the focus may be, yeah, you’re going to attain, maybe it’s not a numbers goal, but you are
looking to get healthier, whatever it is, and you’re shifting your mindset. But how does that shift trickle
down through your clients’ lives?
Josee Cormier (19:42):
I’m just like, oh my God, I really feel like we change their lives. I think that’s the best part. We don’t
make them thinner. I truly believe we make our members happier in their life. That’s what our service
does. What happens, I’ve seen it before my eyes and it’s the most beautiful thing ever. And we’ve been
at that this for a long time. So I’ve seen women come so young and I’ve seen them get married and have
babies and change jobs and get divorces and start businesses. I’ve seen it all. Once they start to realize
the power that they have, yeah, there’s no stopping them. So they realize, I can do this hard thing, I can
figure this out. Then it just goes. But it’s the figuring it out piece. And we have an entire course within
our program about your habit, your values, and it’s just constant reminder modeling of that behavior.
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So it’s just so beautiful to see someone, I mean, I’ve said it so many times in this podcast already, how
authenticity is so important to me. It’s also how we show up. It’s also a big part of who we are. And so I
think seeing someone, because once you start showing up and the right people stick around and you are
good enough, you’re unstoppable. I’m sorry. It’s just what it is. When you see that the way you want to
parent is good enough, and when you feel that you truly believe that, no more guilt, no more noise. I
mean you’re unstoppable. You feel like you can get the divorce or get married, you can go back to school
or not. You know what I mean? You’re now on the priority list.
Lana Milner (21:12):
You know yourself. Yes. And you’re stepping into alignment
Josee Cormier (21:16):
And you like yourself. Yeah.
Lana Milner (21:18):
You accept your learn to love yourself again. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. We talk about that a lot with our
clients and we’re talking about branding and showing up authentically. And a lot of times we see these
companies and they have big splashy everything that everybody’s telling them to be and do. And it’s like,
but wait a minute, that’s not you. So what sets you apart from the crowd? Nothing. Yeah. You have to
show up individually and authentically as you’ve put it or else or else you’re just, you’re blending in and
that’s not doing yourself justice.
Josee Cormier (21:50):
And I think it’s the only way to be consistent. And I think that consistency always wins for us to be still
showing up 11 years later. We need, it needed to be so authentic and people are like, oh my God, you’re
everywhere. You’re always on the internet. It must be exhausting. Like, but it’s so me. I don’t need a
piece of paper before I go do a live. I just show up and I’m like, Hey, you know what I mean? I’m just like
myself. So I don’t need to overthink everything because I’m just going to be me. And it’s going to have to
be good enough for who whoever’s listening because consist having a perfect live where 200 people are
listening and what you have to say is not even possible. So just show up as yourself because it’ll be
easier to show up again tomorrow then Yeah,
Lana Milner (22:33):
Just show up. Absolutely. Yeah. Show up and the rest will come too. Oh yeah. Okay. So where are you
going with your weight loss? What are your brand goals? You’ve got to have a mindset for your business
and your brand. Where do you guys think you’re trending toward? What is it? What are you
manifesting? World
Josee Cormier (22:51):
Domination World.
Lana Milner (22:54):
Yes. Always. We
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Truly believe to our core that we can add value to every single, especially women’s lives. And we know
that more people deserve to know that weight, weight loss is possible, that this is possible for them and
just how beautiful their lives can be. Yeah, I think mean our mission is to have more people know we
exist. So if we go straight to it, we need more people to know we exist. I truly believe that once you’ve
know that we exist, then we have so many ways for you to know more about us. We are always on the
internet showing our colors, showing our true colors, showing what we do, sharing, sharing, sharing,
trying to change lives on the internet. But we need help getting the board out that we exist. We also
see, see that society, I mean this is just to be real. We sometimes feel like we’re always against the
current because society is, weight loss is such a taboo subject and it’s like, no, let’s talk it out.
(23:59):
Why do you feel that way? Because the reason why you feel that way is because of your history, your
baggage. And in order for us to be able to change that way of thinking, you need to talk about it. You
can’t keep that same limiting belief. I mean, we’re a weight loss program that does not put a SI timeline,
a goal weight. We don’t give you rules. So we are different. And different is scary to people. So I think it’s
our greatest. Yes, I think it’s the best thing about our business. Yeah, it’s our greatest, but it’s all
strength. But it’s our biggest obstacle. It is our biggest, it’s quite ironic and it’s always been our biggest
strength as a program is also our biggest obstacle as a program because our program is not as sexy. We
always say that it’s not as sexy as the four week detox for a million dollars.
(24:41):
I don’t know why people think that’s sexy, but torture as much as much. I think if I were to ask you, oh,
quick, there are no quick fixes. We’re really quick at all agreeing. I think society would agree. There’s no
quick fixes to weight loss yet. We keep investing in quick fixes, yet we don’t invest in self-work and in
ourselves because that’s what weight loss can be a part of. Weight loss can be a part of self-
improvement and personal growth. It can be such a beautiful part of your journey, but we’ve put weight
loss on a, oh, we know there’s no quick fixes, but here’s my $200 for my four week detox and I hope that
this is the one we’re still all looking for it. So the one, that’s how we know that we still have work to do.
Yes. And I think that we are the future.
(25:30):
It’s funny because we were just sitting here working and we just created a six week self-awareness
program and it’s coming out right before our summer. We always do a summer thing. So we talk about
like, okay, let’s talk about drinking alcohol, let’s talk about being on the beach. Let’s talk about wearing
on the shorts. We always do a really intense summer theme. So it was like, Hey, we need six weeks. We
had a six week period. I’m like, Hey, cause we just did obstacles. I’m like, Hey, we have a six week period.
What do the people need right now? So we did the six week self-awareness program, and I had a
moment where I said, oh my gosh, every other diet program right now is doing a six week summer
shred. Everywhere. I look on the internet right now is getting people ready for the six week right before
summer, and we are doing this self-awareness program.
(26:14):
We’re here and it’s like week one is like we’re talking about your story. So we want our members to
really go deep and where has this all started? How has our mother’s diet? Was your mother dieting?
What’s your history with weight loss? Getting our members to really learn where their mindset is
coming from so that we can build the proper way to weight loss. And so we just know that how different
we are, how our approach is very, it’s mindset. So again, not as sexy as until it is, until it is, but you have
to give it time. And people,
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Laura Thomson (26:48):
Well, you have longevity with yours. Oh yeah. You create this mindset. We’ll have longevity. The six
week shred will get you to summer if you’re miserable for those six weeks and hating life and then you’ll
plateau and then you’re back to square one buying another
Alicia Stafford (27:01):
Program and just the cycle, the vicious cycle continues. And again, like she, Josee said, we still keep
doing it. People still keep on the hamster wheel. What society needs to do is we need to all redefine
success when it comes to weight loss. We need to redefine that everyone, we need to stop saying that
success is I’ve lost 70 pounds. I’m sorry if you’ve lost 70 pounds and you were miserable and hungry the
whole time. That is not success to me.
Josee Cormier (27:27):
For me it’s like, how’s life? I know it’s not as sexy, but it’s like, but did you achieve that weight loss goal
by following or doing, showing up as who you want to be? And that was the result of it, not because you
put your life aside to lose 70 pounds. I think we really need to redefine success. And how I know that is
because we hear it all the time. I did that and I was successful and I’m like, but we’re back here. You
weren’t successful at all. If we’re back here with the weight back on with years passing by where you
have a shitty relationship with food and you still talk shit about your body like this. We didn’t accomplish
anything, but we see success as a lower number. Or at one point when I lost weight, I was successful and
it worked. It didn’t work. We need to start changing our language.
Lana Milner (28:19):
How do you bridge the gap between mindset and accountability? Because really this is self-
accountability, is being accountable to whatever you are setting in front of yourself as far as being more
authentic, losing weight, but feeling better about your choices and where you’re at. So how do you have
that accountability model but also still set them up for success with that new mindset?
Josee Cormier (28:40):
I think that it’s important to realize that. So they they’re, they’re on their own. It’s your way. Okay. I’ve
always said it is not my responsibility. And I’m not just saying that as Josie, just like it’s not someone
else’s responsibility to make you want to lose weight, to make you show up in a certain way. Because I
think we’re so used to that as a society. It’s like, tell me what to do, tell me how often, tell me how long,
but I need someone to report to. I need someone that is such a limiting belief. And that belief is holding
you back. Yeah. It’s time that we need to realize that no one’s coming to save us. And so for the women
that want to be the CEOs of their own life at your way, we lost. When you join, here’s your massive
toolbox. It is so heavy you can’t even carry it.
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And you might use a hammer and you might use a screwdriver. And you know what? In three years
when you have young kids, you’re using every tool. So it’s just literally members choose which ones they
use when. And what works for me might not work for you. So it really is, this is what we encourage them
to do. Stay connected. So press play every day is something we say within our membership. There is a
live every single day that you can watch, press play every day. And if you just set that goal to stay
connected to a community of people that are committed to working on this mindset, you would be
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amazed at what that one tiny goal could give you. Oh yeah. And I think that we were just so used to that
model, we’re so used to that model of someone else disciplining us and that motivates me.
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And it’s like, but you had access to that and you still at one point you still said goodbye or you left or it
did. Because it doesn’t fit within your life. And I think in order for you to be successful in a program we
are offering or the service that we are offering, you need to be at a place where you don’t want
someone watching over you. I am a grown ass adult. You not tell me when to eat, when not to eat. What
I want to figure this out. You need to be at that place. And I think we think we can’t, but we just need
that permission. And we’ve never had permission. No program has ever given us the feeling that we
could before. And what we need to realize is what we think we can’t do alone is basically the suck. Like
when we were reporting to someone who was because it sucked so bad that we needed someone, but I
don’t need external accountability because my life itself inspires and motivates me.
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Just the actions, not any results that come from it. So when you start showing up in that way, you realize
you don’t need this intenseness to show up because it’s not so hard if you are just doing things because
some, you’re reporting to someone else, you’re not being authentic. And I think that we’ve never be felt
like that was even a possibility that we could lose weight. Authentic, authentically, authentically,
authentically. I’m very francais, but I really feel like we’ve never given ourselves the chance and the
hope even that this was possible. And I think first of all, you cannot be authentic if you don’t know
yourself. So that’s why first self-awareness is massive. You cannot challenge yourself if you do not create
self-awareness first. And you need to know where you stand today to be able to keep pushing yourself.
And at one point you can’t be doing things just for weight loss because weight loss is not coming forever.
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You’re not going to get to zero pounds at one point. Weight loss is not a part of how you show up. So
you need to focus on other things. And when you get used to just showing up in a way that’s just, how
do I make the most of today? How do I be the best version of me today? Then you get to be that person
on vacation while you’re busy at work. So it’s not this big diet, not diet. It’s like Right. The skills I use to
show up is who I want to be every single day. Yeah. Literally transfer all around the world. Yeah. No
matter what’s going on in my life, my kids are sick, I’m busy. It’s literally the same conversation I have as
myself every single day. I think that it’s important to realize mind. Obviously we’re a mindset over meal
plan. We know that we do not give meal plans and it’s because meal plans can’t coexist with vacations,
holidays, mindset, family mindset can coexist with all of that. That’s why it’s so powerful.
Lana Milner (32:50):
I
Laura Thomson (32:51):
Love my mindset over meal plans. That’s amazing. Yeah.
Lana Milner (32:53):
Perfect. Well, I do. Okay, listeners, you have permission now from Josey and Alicia, we would like to do a
quick rapid fire with you ladies. We do believe you’re going to have world domination. So we’re going to
hear it here first. Laura, you want to hit it?
Laura Thomson (33:10):
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Yeah, let’s do it. Okay. If you could sit down and have wine, a glass of wine with anyone living or dead,
who would it be?
Josee Cormier (33:22):
Taylor Swift.
Lana Milner (33:28):
Say for you. Alicia.
Alicia Stafford (33:30):
I don’t know. Oh,
Lana Milner (33:31):
Okay.
Alicia Stafford (33:32):
I’m so sorry.
Lana Milner (33:34):
Fair. Okay. What is the worst? Yeah, what is the worst diet craze in your opinion that you have seen or
worst one feel in your heart? Worst one. Oh,
Josee Cormier (33:48):
Oof. All of them. All of them? Yeah. I mean the cabbage soup was pretty terrible.
Lana Milner (33:54):
Yes. Oh my god, remember that? Oh, my husband did that for months on it. Oh,
Josee Cormier (33:58):
Cabbage awful. Soup was pretty bad. I think what gets to me the most is when it’s fruit. People can’t eat
fruit. When there’s like keto something, keto things that people can’t eat, it really gets to me. And it’s
the language that people use. So when it’s like, Hey, well throw out that junk food and oh, that really, I
really cringe when I see that. So anything that’s related to eat this, don’t eat that. That really gets to me.
Laura Thomson (34:25):
Elimination style. Okay. Favourite saying or quote?
Josee Cormier (34:29):
I’m just going to say my favourite one. Just because it’s different or it’s not as you expect. It doesn’t
mean it’s bad, doesn’t mean it’s not the right way. So I often have to remind myself of that. So that was
something that one person told me and I never forgot it. I was like, because I was expecting a certain
result out of something and she was like, I’m like, oh, that was not how I was thinking it was going to
look like. And she’s just because it doesn’t look like you thought doesn’t mean it’s bad. And then I
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started to see it in a different way and I was like, it’s true. It could have been that the whole time. You
know what I mean? Mindset.
Lana Milner (34:59):
Mindset. I think.
Josee Cormier (35:01):
Yeah. Mindset. Yeah. I don’t have a really fancy one, but again, anything that just reminds you that the
way that you are perceiving things is up to you and that just really you are in charge. Yeah.
Lana Milner (35:11):
Love that. Okay. What is your go true go-to treat food? I am going to fall off this chair if you say donuts
still. But what is the one thing that you like? If it’s in front of you, you cannot say no to.
Josee Cormier (35:25):
I mean, there’s probably nothing that I cannot say. No, to be perfectly honest. I think alcohol, I mean,
yeah, alcohol for me, but chocolate for me. But chocolate, the thing though is I eat chocolate every
single day of my life. Yeah. Yeah. So I, there’s nothing that I like can’t have.
Lana Milner (35:41):
So I have Because you can. Yes.
Josee Cormier (35:43):
Yeah, exactly. So even that treat, I’m like, oh, well I just have whatever I want. Yours is dip. Oh yes. Okay.
I love dip if there’s dip around I. Yes.
Lana Milner (35:53):
What’s your favorite dip? What’s your favorite?
Josee Cormier (35:56):
Like a good shrimp dip. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? With coffee sauce and the mayo, the green
cheese like a good dip. No,
Lana Milner (36:04):
I’m all about the dip too. I really like the, yeah. Old Dutch onion dip that you can get with your chips. Oh
my God. That’s my favorite. Hey.
Josee Cormier (36:11):
Yeah. Yeah. So when you said it’s, it’s, it’s on, it’s just condiments. I’m actually going to do
Lana Milner (36:17):
Do
Josee Cormier (36:18):
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Mini guys. Do I actually love the food or do I just love the condiments? I am not sure if I love chicken
nuggets or I just love McChicken sauce. Oh
Lana Milner (36:25):
Yes.
Josee Cormier (36:26):
Just not, do I like ice cream? Do I just love caramel? I’m unsure.
Lana Milner (36:30):
Hey, you’re on a Path to Discovery.
Laura Thomson (36:34):
That’s the next documentary condiments for 28 days. Okay. First thing you think about when you wake
up.
Josee Cormier (36:44):
What I’m going to pack in my children’s lunches
Laura Thomson (36:49):
The worst.
Josee Cormier (36:51):
Honestly, getting my family out the door is my first call of action. Yeah. Oh, what do I think when I first
wake up? I don’t know. Not much coffee. Bring me all the coffee.
Lana Milner (37:02):
First thing on my mind too. Where’s the coffee?
Josee Cormier (37:04):
No coffee.
Lana Milner (37:05):
Okay. Last question. What would you tell your 14 year old selves?
Josee Cormier (37:09):
Ugh. I always say keep going girl. You’re crushing it. 14 is a very, I have a good, really strong relationship
with that age just because that’s the age where I was really, I think that was very defining to who I am
today. That’s when I was living in an obese body and really trying to find my way and really questioning
all the diet industry. So because it’s such a big part of who I am today and what I do for work, I really
connect with that girl. And I think good for you. Good for, for pushing yourself and realizing this is not
okay. Why are you telling me what to eat? My friends aren’t being told what to eat. They’re not living in
a bigger body. How can I create a better life for myself? I’m just like, I’m proud of her. I’m like, keep
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going. You’re going somewhere with this. So I feel you’ll make it through. Yeah. I have a good
relationship with my 14 year old self for sure.
Lana Milner (37:58):
I love that. That’s beautiful. How about you, Alicia?
Josee Cormier (38:00):
I would tell my 14 year old self that you are enough and that you are worthy. And I’ve really always
struggled with that aspect. And it was nothing to do with the size of my body, but I always thought it
was, I was always waiting for a thinner body to feel worthy. And I wish I would’ve learned that lesson
earlier, but just, I wish I would’ve had the confidence and felt enough at that age.
Lana Milner (38:22):
Isn’t that always the case? Yeah. Tell that to my teenager all the time. I’m like, listen, you aren’t going to
hear me. You are not going to understand right now, but please, please, one day you will look back on
these words. Right? Yeah,
Josee Cormier (38:34):
100 percent.
Lana Milner (38:36):
Josee and Alicia, thank you so much for being on Woman Up. You two are the epitome of Woman Up
and we love what you’re doing for diet, culture, and also just for women.
Josee Cormier (38:45):
Oh, thank you so much for having us. We are so pleased to be here.
Laura Thomson (38:49):
Where can our listeners find you? Oh
Josee Cormier (38:51):
My gosh, it’s hard to ignore us everyone. Okay. We’re pretty much on all platforms under your way.
Weight loss, so Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, TikTok as well. And then we have obviously on YouTube,
we have our documentary that we highly recommend. It’s an easy, free way to learn more about who
we are. A fun way as well as Lana said, it’s funny, it’s fun, it’s, we’re so proud of it. And then our website,
your way, our support.com or just Google your way weight loss and we’ll be right there.
Laura Thomson (39:22):
Perfect. Make sure you check them out. You will not regret it. Please, ladies, thank you so much. And of
course we are going to thank Doug, our podfather with Stories and Strategies for putting this together
and for helping us out today. And if you liked our episode, please send it on over to a friend. You could
also liken review and there’s a whole list of other amazing women who are womanning up that you can
listen to. So until next time, thank you so much. We’ll see you later.
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Josee Cormier (39:47):
Bye-bye. Bye.