Lana Milner
Hi sisters. Today we are going to delve deep into toxicity, the patriarchy, jealousy, and refusing to
conform. We’re speaking with Lisa Webb.
Lisa Webb
You want me to get into it, don’t you?
Laura Thomson
Do want you to get into it.
Lana Milner
Oh, dish, dish, dish. Let’s do it.
Lisa Webb
I don’t talk about this very often. I’ve actually only shared this once at a, at a live event. Um, but it was
actually really powerful and people were like, I can’t believe that happened. And you need to share that
more often.
Laura Thomson
That’s right. Lisa Webb is the founder and CEO of Wine, Women and Wellbeing. And quite literally, this
woman is taking the world by storm.
Lana Milner
Yeah. She spent over a decade living in friends Indonesia, the Republic of Congo. She even had her
babies there and she couldn’t speak the language. She had to build community on her own.
Laura Thomson
We’re diving into all the details of Lisa’s time overseas and what it was like, and kind of get into those
nitty gritty details we know that you wanna hear about.
Lana Milner
But here’s the thing. We know Lisa really well. We’re her executive directors for wine, women wellbeing.
And we chatted her ear off for over an hour. So we had to condense that. We had to tighten it up a little
bit. So we’re gonna save her backstory for another day.
Laura Thomson
But you might find out other versions of what’s a little tight with Lisa Webb
Lana Milner Oh my God. Yes, please. You know what? We are gonna, we can’t leave that story out. So
after this podcast..

Laura Thomson
they gotta wait for Atlanta.
Lana Milner
You have to wait for it. There is an encore clip and it’s all about French women’s steel vaginas. Don’t
miss it. How did she go from being a teacher to the CEO of a national brand in two years?
Laura Thomson
Let’s find out. Let’s Woman Up with Lisa Webb.
Lana Milner
Hello, sister.
Lisa Webb
Hi girls.
Laura Thomson
Lisa!
Lisa Webb
Hello, Hello
Lana Milner
What time is it in France?
Lisa Webb
It is 6:15 PM and there’s a glass of wine in my hand.
Laura Thomson
See I told you Lana. It’s five o’clock somewhere.
Lana Milner
It’s five o’clock somewhere.
ALL
Cheers

Lana Milner
Across the pond. Mm. You know, I know it’s 10 o’clock in the morning here, but for Lisa, I will happily
pour a glass of wine. That’s how much I love her
Laura Thomson
Ditto. Ditto. Okay. So Lisa Webb, if you all don’t know Lisa, you’re gonna know her name very, very soon.
Lisa is a world traveler. She’s an author, she’s a founder and CEO of Wine, Women Wellbeing, and she
holds a master’s degree in educational leadership. Can I, can I toot your horn some more? Are you
feeling good now?
Lisa Webb
I’m feeling it. I like it.
Lana Milner
You took all these beautiful stories and you ended up going back to Calgary though. And so now you’re
almost, it’s almost like you’re restarting in your hometown. At what point did you say, Okay, this is this
something’s missing here in Calgary. I’ve had all these experiences overseas and now I’m missing that
sisterhood feeling here in Calgary.
Lisa Webb
Well, I felt like I wasn’t the same person when I got back as I was when I left at 29 years old, I became a
mom. I became a mom as a foreigner. I lived in all of these different places and experienced all of these
things. And I still had my friends and I had my family, but I also got used to having very diverse friends
and friends from all around the world. And I was always learning something and I just, I really missed
that. And so I started looking for things like, kind of like how I did when I arrived in Congo, looking for
events and things to join and places where I could meet people. And so I did that in Calgary and I found
there was events for moms, there was events for entrepreneurs, there was events for moms who were
entrepreneurs, but there didn’t seem like there was a place just for women.
I didn’t know where I fit in. I didn’t own a business. I had kids, but I didn’t wanna just go somewhere and
talk about my kids all night. Um, as much as I love them, not my idea of a good time, to just like, let’s
talk, let’s talk about our birth. No, thank you. So I wanted to just like go somewhere to meet women
where there was no prerequisite. Um, and it didn’t come to me right away. But eventually along the
way, when I was back in Cal, I did go to some of those events, by the way. And they were great places to
meet people. But um, at one point I got asked to speak on change and embracing change. And I got
asked to talk and that it was gonna be, there was gonna be 200 women there. And I remember going,
Holy shit, I have some serious stage fright. I hadn’t, like, I had spoken in front of kids, I was a teacher all
the time. I’d spoken in front of a whole school full of kids, 400 kids, 600 kids, that’s fine. But 200 women
of my peers. That made me really nervous to think about. And so I thought, I gotta practice this
somewhere. And it all just came together. That was part of it. And then wanting to get women together
was another part of it. And I thought if I just got some friends together and gave them wine, then I was
like, No, it’s, it’s gonna be too easy to just stop and not practice, like what I wanna say in the speech and
see if I can get it out. I need to do it in front of like a room full of strangers. And so that actually, I was
the first speaker at our first Wine Woman in Wellbeing event and I just shared my story on change on

life overseas and gave the ladies the wine. And we had one night and then I thought, well, I know
someone who can speak on this next time and this. And it just kind of grew from there.
Laura Thomson
And so Your baby was born.
Lisa Webb
My baby was born.
Laura Thomson
And you were teaching at the time while doing this?
Lisa Webb
I was
Laura Thomson
How Did your school board react to you having a side business?
Lisa Webb
Well…
Laura Thomson
Tell us that little tidbit story.
Lisa Webb
You want me to get into it, don’t you?
Laura Thomson
I do want you you to get into it.
Lana Milner
Oh, dish, dish, dish. Let’s do it.
Lisa Webb
I Don’t talk about this very often. I’ve actually only shared this once at a, at a live event. Um, but it was
actually really powerful and people were like, I can’t believe that happened, And you need to share that
more often. But, um, things started escalating really quickly with wine, women and wellbeing. And it
was getting really big on social media. And I was asked to come and be on the CTV morning show before
school. And so I was staying up late, getting up early in the morning. I’d joined the 5:00 AM club. So
every day at 5:00 AM I would get up, I’d go for a run, I’d work on wine, women and wellbeing. I’d do all
the things before my kids got up at six 30. And then when I’d put them to bed at night, I was growing it

at night. And then once a month we’d have these events and I would go and host them And I was just, it
was good until, um, and actually so I just changed into a new school and some of the ladies were like,
Oh, you are the wine woman and wellbeing lady. We follow you on Instagram. And I had actually moved
into that neighbourhood as well. And so I was like, Yes, I’m the wine woman and wellbeing lady. And
apparently there maybe was someone who didn’t like that I kind of had this double life happening. And
um, I didn’t know it at the time, but there was someone whose children or child I taught and they were
collecting screenshots of my Instagram and they were saving them for six months.
Lana Milner
Okay, well I’m guessing that you’re not putting crazy stuff on your Instagram. So like what kind of shots
are we talking?
Lisa Webb
I need a sip of wine for this. Okay, so, um, no, I’m a mom. I have two kids. I, you know, that it wasn’t
even like, wasn’t even, showing any cleavage for God’s sake. Um, there was a picture of me dressed as
GI Jane for Halloween in the school hallway. No kids in the photo, just me. Um, there was a picture of
me on the CTV morning show before school. There was a picture of me, um, actually that one I was in
my bathing suit, but it was boobs up. I had a Santa hat on, was with my dad and my daughter on the
beach in Mexico for Christmas. And so there was all of these pictures. So anytime that I had a glass of
wine in my hand that was screenshot and saved, um, if I was ever at the beach, like the one with my dad
and my daughter. Um, and then I was teaching one day, six months after the first photo that had been
screenshot, I got pulled out of my classroom. And teachers do not get pulled outta their classroom
because someone has to watch the kids. Like, you can’t go to the bathroom if you’re a teacher. Laura,
you used to be a teacher. You know this, you, you gotta hold the p till recess and please like, don’t let it
be in number two cause you’re gonna be in big trouble. You just gotta hold it. And so I got pulled outta
my classroom in the middle of the day and the chief superintendent of the school board called me into
the principal’s office and he said, I hear you run a business on the side. And he spread out these eight by
10 photos of me from Instagram that they had printed off and they spread them across the boardroom
table. And I didn’t even know what was happening. And I just was like, I just started crying cause I was
like frozen. I’m like, all and all I could think of was like this, is this the head head? Like this isn’t my
principle, this is like as high as you can get in the school board
Lana Milner
And this is your life that he’s just put on a table. As if it’s shameful.
Laura Thomson
Shaming you
Lisa Webb
Um, there was, yeah, there’s me in my bathing suit. There’s me on the news. And so they, they asked me
like, um, wine, women and wellbeing and we did have wine on the set, but the CTV morning show.
What? And he said, I checked and I see you were at work that day cuz we checked your files. Um, so
they checked when I was on the news, they checked if I showed up to work that day and it was filmed at
like five 30 in the morning. So yeah, I could go do 20 minute segment and not even 20 minute segment. I

wish it was like a three minute segment and then back to work or off to work. And um, so they thought
that I was drinking before work that day at five 30 in the morning when I was on the news. Um, you, you
girls think that noon is early for a glass of wine… I would love to pound a good bottle of wine at five 30 in
the morning. Um, and so I was told that in no way could I imply that I was a teacher or could I, um, like
the picture of me in the hallway on Halloween because there was lockers in the background that was
inappropriate because I implied that I was a teacher. I never said what school I was at. I never said what
school board I was with. I was told that I cannot wear a bathing suit on the beach and posted on social
media. And I said, Well, what am I supposed to wear? And they were like, Well, you can find something,
actually fires me up just to think about this. Uh, they were like, Well, you can find another way to take a
picture on the beach on vacation.
Laura Thomson
How dare you.
Lisa Webb
And now, and I couldn’t, I couldn’t even actually defend myself cause I was so much in shock. I was
literally frozen. I was just sat there and just like, I was frozen, I was crying and I went home. I couldn’t
even, I couldn’t go back to my classroom. Um, it was actually really horrific. And then I was like, cause
the whole time my mind was like, where did they even get these pictures from? And like screenshots of
stories. Um, like any, anytime I was out with my husband, and you do like a cheers or anytime there was
any, anyone, they were like screenshotting the Insta stories and saving them. So totally violating.
Laura Thomson
Absolutely violating, absolutely shaming you for being a teacher, for making these choices. Living your
life. For having vacations. It absolutely turns my stomach.
Lisa Webb
Can I tell you the very best part of that story?
Laura Thomson
Please do.
Lisa Webb
It’s, it’s jumping ahead a little bit. But, so after being told that I can’t do any of the things that I was
doing for wine, women and wellbeing, like, we can come back to this because I, I left teaching. I felt like I
got forced out honestly. Um, fast forward just over a year, I don’t know if it was a year or a year and a
half later, but we had our wild conference and knowing that the entire Alberta Teachers Association, like
the full ATA, our Wine Woman and wellbeing conference was not only funded, but they paid for teacher
Subs To come to the conference that I put on.
Laura Thomson
Yeah, whoo.

Lisa Webb
And so that was a very, very full circle moment. Um, when I heard that conference was approved
funding.
Lana Milner
Yes. Take that.
Lisa Webb
So couldn’t have been that bad.
Laura Thomson
All right. And to speak about when all this happened, your life has been put out on a table in a board
room. This is a few days before the biggest event you’ve ever had and the one that was about to launch
you into entrepreneur world
Lisa Webb
Yeah. I I feel like maybe it wasn’t a coincidence, um, that someone sat on these pictures for like six or
seven months and then brought them to the school board the week that we had our event with Jillian
Harris. Mm. Maybe not a coincidence. Um, and so yeah, it was really actually horrible because they
didn’t know who it was, who, who was taking those pictures. They wouldn’t tell me. But I did know that
when I got on the stage and took the mic at our Jillian Harris event, um, there was parents from my
school that I taught at and who had kids in my class that were sitting in the front row and I had to take a
deep breath and carry on. And there’s nothing I wanted to do more than like drop the mic and run away.
Um, but that was one of those moments where I was like, Okay, you got this. Let’s do it, woman up.
Lana Milner
Let’s talk about that night. Because that was night, actually the first night we met you, it was the first
night we met Jillian. This was like Laura said, the, the event that really catapulted you. And you’re
standing out up there in front of 250 people on the eve of COVID, by the way. Literally the world shut
down the next day. What, what do you take from that night? Because it really was your lady balls
moment. There’s no doubt about it.
Lisa Webb
Um, uh, again, at that time I was just surviving. I was treading water, I was just making it happen. But
when I look at that now, it was one of those like, holy shit, we can do hard things. And when you’re in it,
you just get it done. Like I had 12 to 15 branches at that time. I didn’t have you ladies helping me. I was
just all by myself. I planned the Jillian Harris event that five o’clock to 6:30 AM window and then late
into the night until my husband would force me to go to bed. And I just figured it out. And I was working
full time and I had two kids. Um, and it just taught me that when you want something bad enough, you
find a way to make it work and then watch TV for two years. Um, you just figure it out and you do what
needs to get done. And when you love what you’re doing and there’s a purpose behind it, it doesn’t feel
like work. That’s the fire that drives you. It’s the purpose is the fire that drives you.

Laura Thomson
You, you said you felt like you were a little bit pushed out of your position as a teacher, but also it really
came to a head where you had to make a decision. What was that woman up moment for you where
you just said, screw, I’m leaving teaching.
Lisa Webb
I got hit in the head with a frozen soccer ball. Quite literally. So I was out on supervision one day doing
my thing. Um, and snow was on the ground and kids were playing soccer. And this was after, after that
had happened, which forced me to like, I mean teaching paid my mortgage, but I hated being there and
knowing that this was the, the environment just felt extremely toxic to me. Um, and knowing that I had
given my time and energy into a job where someone was taking pictures of me and not bringing them to
me, not bringing them to my principal, but bringing them literally as high as they could go to try and
make me lose my job. I was just like basically disgusted with the environment that I was spending my
time in. And I mean, this isn’t to say for all teaching jobs, but this was my experience. I mean, I, I should
say teaching is a great profession and we need people who love to do it. But this experience that I had,
um, really put a bad taste in my mouth. And so I was outside on supervision. There was kids playing
soccer in the snow and there was a kid who went to go do a field kick across the football field. And
instead that field kick about six feet away from me, landed in the back of my head, took me down and I
got a concussion. They sent me from school to the hospital. They wrote me off work. And I’d never been
on any kind of leave before. But when they forced me to stay home, that was the best thing that ever
happened because once I was at home, I was like, there’s no way. I actually, like, once I removed myself
and did the work to get over the, the grossness that I felt, I was just like, I always saw taking a leave as a
weakness. And for me that was like a take the power back moment. I was like, I’m not stepping foot
back into that building. Thank you very much. Um, and so actually once I had some pretty like real and
raw conversations with the people, and I mean it took me, it took me a long time and it took me a lot of
work to get there. Um, but once I said what happened and why I couldn’t go back and what my
experience was, the the people at the top of the school were actually quite mortified. That person who
called me out of my classroom no longer works there not because of me. Um, I did hear that they lost
their job. I was like, Oh, that’s a shame. Um, but
Laura Thomson
Karma’s a Bitch.
Lana Milner
That’s what we call karma. Yep.
Lisa Webb
I uh, I shared my experience and I, they were actually quite horrified and I think embarrassed and they
were the ones that were like, Yep, you, you finish your leave, you take your time and if you want to go
back to school next year, then we can find you a different school. We can look into that. And that’s at
the same time where Kevin had the opportunity to come back to France and it was like, Sign me up.

Laura Thomson
Yeah.
Lana Milner
Can we just take a moment? Take a sip and a round of applause. Quiet applause.
Laura Thomson
I’m okay with taking sip here. Let’s do it.
Lana Milner
Always time for a Sip. Damn. What a story, Lisa. Okay. So since then, how many branches do you have
across Canada?
Lisa Webb
Um, Including the one that I opened today. Talk to you girls later.
Lana Milner
Yeah. New information. Any information.
Lisa Webb
I think we’re at um, we’re at 28 I believe. And actually after we chat, I have a chat with someone else.
The ladies are interested. The, the fire is burning.
Laura Thomson
The Fire is lit. Now let’s talk about manifest tour for a minute because we’ve started the manifest tour.
We took it last year to four cities and we had some like, let’s just name drop for a minute here. We had
you and Caitlin Bristo and Jess Tatu and Dr. Jodi Carrington. And it was an incredible ride.
Lisa Webb
It was to say the least
Lana Milner
un freaking believable.
Laura Thomson
And to think that going from your first event where you are speaking to now you’re at engagements
with over a thousand women.
Lisa Webb
The Telus freaking convention centre.

Laura Thomson
How does that make you feel, Lisa?
Lisa Webb
I think it’s one of those things and it, I’m not looking back on it yet cuz we’re still in it. I feel like, well
maybe I look back on it cuz it happened last year, but I feel, I don’t know if I, I don’t know if it sinks yet
for me to be honest.
Laura Thomson
Still a little surreal.
Lisa Webb
Mm-hmm. It is. I think it’s pretty cool. And sometimes when I like we all have our moments and we all
get down on ourselves and we’re all like, Oh, what am I gonna do now? And that’s the thing about
coming off a high of something like that. Like you guys saw me this summer, I was like eh, what am I
gonna do with myself? Um, and sometimes when I look around at the women that are in our circle and
in our lives, I’m just like, what the hell? Three years ago I lived in the Congo
Laura Thomson
It is pretty mind blowing when you put it that way.
Lisa Webb
Yeah. Feels very cool. Very, very grateful.

Lana Milner
Can, I just go back to Jillian Harris for a second because I feel like our listeners would really love to hear
you have a very special connection with Jillian’s mother-in-law. Who is Melissa Passuto. Shout out
Melissa. Uh, you had the opportunity to, you know, sip wine at Jillian’s Island in Kelowna and get to
know her. Tell us about her on that level. Tell us about her house dish on all the things please.
Lisa Webb
Okay, well it’s, it’s kind of funny because like you said, I know Melissa very well when I was 22 years old,
first started teaching Calgary, my principal set me up with a mentor and that mentor was Melissa
Passuto. And I remember thinking like, oh, she’s a babe. A little bit old, but she’s a babe. She is younger
than she was younger than I am now. I was an asshole. Super hot for a mom cuz anyone who was a
mom was old, right.
Laura Thomson
She is pretty hot. I gotta say

Lisa Webb
Super hot, goals. She gives me goals all the time. But I remember thinking that, cause anyone who had
kids was like, I was 22 years old, right? Um, but I was like, she’s a cool lady, I really like her. And we just
right away hit it off. And we have had such a special relationship ever since she’s seen me through my
dating. Um, and then when I was living away for all those years, every summer when I’d come home, we
would get together and she would give me the updates on all the things. And she was telling me about
Justin’s girlfriend and how I should really follow her on Instagram. And it was actually Melissa Pasutto
who made me start my Instagram account. And I don’t even think I did follow Jill cuz it wasn’t till later.
And I was like, Who is Justin’s girlfriend? What? Oh, she’s like famous. Like I didn’t know for years.
Lana Milner
But sidebar, you also, she also desperately wanted to set you up with one of her sons?
Lisa Webb
Um, no, no. Paul’s brother.
Lana Milner
Oh, Paul’s brother.
Lisa Webb
So her brother. So Paul has like one brother who’s really young. Like he was like 12 years younger than
the rest of the kids. Um, that’s that’s a whole nother story. Um, so I really know the Pasuttos like part
two. Yeah. That’s the behind the scenes episode. Um, when you turn the camera off Anyways, um, so
you totally got me flustered now.
Laura Thomson
Oh boy. So we really do need to hear it, but yeah, you, she got you onto Instagram and
Lisa Webb
Yes. So then fast forward I met Jill obviously. Um, and we, when I, the the house you wanted to know
about the house, so we did the event. So I had met Jill in Calgary once and then we met at the event.
And so then when we were in Kelowna with the fam, Melissa’s like, Oh come on. We were out running
errands one day and then she’s like, Oh, we’ll just stop at Justin and Jill’s. And so, um, Justin was out in
the yard with the kids and Jill was at work and I guess Melissa had locked the door because the kids
were like running around and she got us a drink. So I’m having a drink at Jill’s Island and she’s still at
work is when they had just got the office and the, but her own door is locked, so Jill’s like ding down and
I walked to the door with a drink in my hand and let her in her own house. And I was like, Oh hi,
welcome home. Um, but just the sweetest, right? And I, I do believe that she pulled a bottle of wine out
of her backpack, um, because they had been at like, she’s kind girl Quails Gate or somewhere, right?
Sand Hill, I don’t know. But she’s like, Oh my God, you have to try this one. And I was like, well I already
have this glass of red right here, then I’m drinking. She’s like, Well you have to try the white as well
because we brought these home cuz we had a meeting today. And so now I’m double fisting at the
island. And, but Jill reminds me of my cousins like, and I told Sam that when we were, Sam’s Jill’s cousin
when we were um, at manifest this year, I was like, I’m the cousin that you guys didn’t know you

needed. Like I’m the other cousin so I’m just, I’ve inserted myself into your cousin family now because it
was just one of those people where you just feel at home. I’m like emptying the dishwasher and Jill’s
like, here taste the Salmon and tell me if it’s done. Like it was just very normal and natural. And um, I
was like, this feels like family. And I don’t know if that’s the Melissa factor because I feel like that when
I’m at their house and it just transferred over. Um, but Jillian Harris is exactly like what you see is what
you get. And I think that’s why we all love her.
Lana Milner
That’s the greatest compliment without a doubt.
Laura Thomson
I was gonna say that, that’s probably the greatest compliment anyone could receive. So, and we can tell
that from from her as well. She just has that vibe. She’s kind, she’s, she’s not, not like most people in this
world. She’s something else I gotta say
Lana Milner
And a lot of people don’t know that she actually stepped up as your mentor for quite a while
Lisa Webb
She did. Yes. Um, that, that was very kind because I mean Jill is extremely, extremely busy and I very
awkwardly, um, one day again after a little bit of wine, her father-in-law, Paul, who I know very well,
Melissa’s husband, he was like, You should ask Jill to be your mentor. She’s got so much knowledge. And
I was like, don’t make it weird, like can I just, can we not do that? Um, but no, we did that because the
wine was flowing and um, she was really good about it. And so during COVID she and I would um, meet
once a month on Zoom and talk me through all the things. And this was pre manifest, pre wild, pre
moving to France. I was still teaching at this time. Um, and I didn’t know what the hell I wanted to do
with my life and it was just, it’s always a good reminder for me, like always look to where you’re going
but always also like put a hand out to see who you can help up along the way.
Lana Milner
A hundred percent. Okay. What is the one thing that you think is the biggest misconception about you?
Lisa Webb
That I drink wine 24/7
Lana Milner
People think that about us too.
Laura Thomson
People Say that about us too.

Lisa Webb
I think you guys do though, don’t you?
Lana Milner
No. God no.
Laura Thomson
I mean it is 10:00 AM but no.
Lisa Webb
Um, and that I’m outgoing all the time. I really like my alone time. Not too much. Like not, I just moved
to Paris, not that much. Um, but some quiet downtime.
Lana Milner
Yeah. And people see your blonde hair and blue eyes and they might draw conclusions, which is awful to
say, but it’s what happens. And a lot of people don’t know about your indigenous roots and how
important that is to you.
Lisa Webb
I am. Well you might know right now cuz my, my indigenous roots are showing show my actual roots.
Laura Thomson
Now those people listening aren’t seeing us, so it’s okay.
Lisa Webb
Yeah. I’ve got some seriously brown hair which might come. I, Laura, since you talked to about this, I
might actually see what they can do. Cuz here in France they can’t, they don’t do blonde highlights. So
my, my real roots might be showing soon. Yes, I was born.
Laura Thomson
I think you pull this on Instagram, see what people think.
Lisa Webb
I might, maybe that’s a good thing for tomorrow. Um, yes, I was born in Thunder Bay, I am Metis and
yeah, you don’t get that by looking at me, but it, it is what it is. And I mean I didn’t grow up on Res so I
don’t feel like it’s not my platform. Right. But that doesn’t take away the fact that it’s part of who I am.
Died blonde hair or not. I blame “Sun In” 1996 got me started and I never went back.
Lana Milner
Oh, shot out “Sun In”

Laura Thomson
Okay, Lisa, to the woman listening to this podcast right now that’s just wanting a new path that’s craving
more, uh, maybe they’re getting, getting out of a bad relationship or leaving a job that’s not fulfilling
them or whatever it is in their life. What would you tell them?
Lisa Webb
Start before you’re ready. You’re never gonna feel ready. There’s never gonna be a good time. Jump in
and figure it out along the way. You don’t need to know the end game. You just need to take the first
step and just believe in yourself enough to know, okay, I can take this first step and then I’ll figure out
the next step when I’m there. You guys know that I do that in real life a lot, like to a fault. Um, but if I,
and you guys know, if someone would’ve showed me, for example, the financials of Manifest, um, if I
would’ve sat down and worked out all those numbers, there was no way in hell that I would’ve put on
that tour because that would’ve been so freaking intimidating. But it was in my heart and I just thought,
I’m gonna figure it out along the way. And there was blips and there was challenges and there was
COVID and we redid that event four different times because of COVID. So it was four times harder than
it normally would have been, but I still wouldn’t change it at the end. Looking back, I’m still so glad we
did it. And I think one day we’re gonna look back even further back and, and just be really proud of
ourselves in one of those like holy shit moments. Cuz I look at that now when I think of that first night,
like that was pretty like lady ballsy of me to like, just hold an event and hope someone’s gonna show up
from like, no name. No one knew what it was. Um, I look back at that now and I’m like, Oh, good for you.
Lana Milner
Yeah, good for you. So what’s next?
Lisa Webb
Oh God,
Laura Thomson
What can people expect?
Lisa Webb
Well, in what way? So, um, doing the mentorship program. We’re mentoring the ladies, We’re getting
them to live their best life. So that’s happening in groups and it’s happening one on one and while
manifest, uh, 2023 is in the cooker, and if things pan out how they’re looking like they’re going to, it’s
gonna be freaking incredible. And I am just super honoured that you ladies are gonna be along on the
ride with me again.
Lana Milner
Always. Riding shotgun.
Lisa Webb
And as you know, I was like, it was so much work, like, so much more work than we ever anticipated. So
after it was over, I was like, afraid to even bring it up to you guys again. I was like treading on all the

things and you’re like, you know, we’re in. I was like, well, I don’t even wanna ask because it was just so
much.
Laura Thomson
My Favorite part is that Lisa says it’s more work than we anticipated. And, and Lana and I are like, Oh no,
we knew it was gonna be that much work.
Lisa Webb
I just had no idea going in blind to all the things.
Lana Milner
So we got Manifest 2023 and Wild, which is women Inspiration, leadership and development. And it’s a
really geared toward entrepreneurs and it’s hosted out of Calgary That’s coming next October. And
manifest. We don’t really have a date for yet.
Lisa Webb
No. Stay tuned. Um, maybe by the, I don’t know when this is gonna air, but maybe by that time we will
know more. But it’s, it’s coming.
Lana Milner
We’ll think everybody posted. Okay. Rapid fire questions. I feel like we’re gonna need a two-parter for
this podcast. We’ll see what happens. This Is what happens when we get together. Okay. Rapid fire.
What keeps you awake at night?
Lisa Webb
Am I screwing up my kids?
Lana Milner
Oh, Ditto.
Lisa Webb
The whole, the whole like I some the mom guilt, but not even the mom. I just think our lifestyle, I’m
giving them the very best and also the very most difficult because they’re having life experiences that
most adults don’t have. But at the same time, I worry about them not having the roots or the identity
that keeps me up at night since they were born.
Laura Thomson
All right. Lisa, what’s your favourite song yo jam out In the car to?
Lisa Webb
Oh my God. Am I gonna draw a blank?

Lana Milner
Oh, it’s hard, isn’t it?
Lisa Webb
I do you wanna know why? The problem is I’m a personal development junkie 100% of the time it is an
audio book or a podcast.
Lana Milner
Okay. But you can’t tell me that if Ice Ice Baby doesn’t come on the radio that you don’t know all the
words.
Lisa Webb
I mean any Backstreet Boys. Anything nineties. I’m like in nineties. I know every single word to every
single song on the Alanis Morissette “Jagged Little Pill” album. Alanis, if you’re listening, please come to
a Wine Woman and wellbeing event with us.
Lana Milner
Perfect.
Laura Thomson
Yes, please. Um, all right. What’s the one thing you’ve never told anyone before?
Lisa Webb
And I’m gonna say it now. You can’t ask me that. What’s the one thing I ever told anyone. That I go way
too many days with? Dry shampoo, Or is that people know that and talk about me behind my back. Her
hair is white with dry shampoo.
Laura Thomson
I literally sprayed mine down before this interview. Okay. What is the worst thing someone has ever said
to you?
Lisa Webb
I hear you run a business on the side. Here are some pictures of you and your bathing suit with your dad.
You can’t teach here anymore.
Laura Thomson
Fair. Okay. Canada or France?

Lisa Webb
Canada. My people are there. But the wine is here, so it’s, it’s tough. But at, at the end, at the end of the
day, I’m, I’m a relationships girl.
Lana Milner
What is the one self care item that you can’t live without?
Lisa Webb
Does personal development count to self-care? Cause I’m gonna go back to my, like my audio books. My
personal development is that Self-care?
Lana Milner
Well, I’m thinking more of the things that you get done every time you come to Canada that you can’t
get done in France.
Lisa Webb
Oh, fuck, my hair, my nails. Um, I was like, I’m thinking like daily self-care. I’m like, that gets my head on
straight. Um, Oh yeah my hair, its not real. There, there’s something I don’t say out loud often. You can
buy your hair if it won’t grow. that answers like a couple questions. The song question. Why don’t you
tell people, I mean, I’m sure they know my hair’s not naturally this, this long.
Laura Thomson
Okay. prosecco or wine
Lisa Webb
prosecco.
Lana Milner
That was a fast one Geez. Well, we know that answer. What podcast are you listening to right now?
Lisa Webb
Gold Digger.
Lana Milner
Good one. I mean, I have 72, but that’s one of my faves
Laura Thomson
Favourite celebrity you’ve ever met?
Lisa Webb
Jillian Harris. Come on.

Laura Thomson
Aw, that’s sweet.
Lisa Webb
And I don’t know celebrities, you know that
Lana Milner
Who’s true? Who’s the most difficult or challenging celebrity you’ve ever met?
Lisa Webb
I cannot say. I’ve signed an NDA with, I don’t know, myself.
Lana Milner
It was worth a try
Laura Thomson
Your dream guest to interview
Lisa Webb
Brene Brown
Laura Thomson
Right. You heard it here. She’s manifesting it. Mm-hmm.
Lana Milner
Yep. That’s the start of something big. Where can our listeners get your book becoming French?
Lisa Webb
Amazon. I’m gonna say that because I, well, it’s through, um, a UK publisher. Cause I wasn’t living in
Canada yet when I was searching that out. Um, so I’m gonna say Amazon cause I know it’s there.
Lana Milner
That’s easy for sure.
Laura Thomson
All right. We should mention right now that you are taking sponsors for Manifest tour and for Wild 2023.
So if anyone is interested, you can hit up Lisa or her, her admin team, which is us.
Lana Milner
Or us shockers.

Lisa Webb
We’ll make your dreams happen.
Lana Milner
Thank you so much, Lisa, our sister, Follow Lisa on Instagram at Wine Women Wellbeing. Also, you can
find her at Lisa Webb official and Tune, and tune into her podcast “May Contain Wine.”
Laura Thomson
That’s right. And a special thanks to our pod father there, Doug Downs and “Stories and Strategies.” He’s
on the back end and I’m sure he’s loving every minute.
Lana Milner
Dougie, thank you, Doug.
Lisa Webb
Sorry Doug.
Lana Milner
And thank you to all of you for tuning in. If you connected with something we said today or it’s
something that was heard today or you’re just having a good time, please share this podcast right in
review. We really appreciate it.
Laura Thomson
All right guys. That’s it for now. Thank you.
Lana Milner
Bye. Bye Lisa
Lisa Webb
Bye. Love you girls.
Lana Milner
All right. So y’all stuck around to hear the Vagina story. It’s like Vagina Monologues meets Emily in Paris.
Laura Thomson
That’s right, get ready to laugh.
Lisa Webb
So in France, like I’ll just tell you right now, like Frenchmen have vaginas of steel because like they can
jump on all the trampolines that they want to. And they’re gonna tell you why. Because what happens is
you go for, you go for your appointment at six weeks like you always do. And what happened to me and

every other French woman, but again, I wasn’t in an alliance yet. I didn’t have a sisterhood who was
telling me these things. I was on my own with my little baby by myself. Couldn’t talk to the neighbours
anything yet. So I go to my doctor’s appointment, my doctor hands me this prescription saying
something to me and I’m like, Okay. Cuz now I’m like back at a hospital. They send a midwife to your
house after you have your baby. Actually after you have your baby, you have to stay at home for four
days. Or sorry, you have to stay in the hospital for four days. And if you want to go home, you have to
like sign a waiver saying that a midwife will come to your house the next day. So the midwives comes to
the house, she gives me this paper, she’s telling me something. I’m nodding and smiling, and I take this
paper and I go to where she tells me to go. I have no idea what’s happening. And so I didn’t know at the
time, but this is like a thing that all French women do. And so the lady’s like asking me these crazy
questions. She’s asking me about my vagina. She’s asking me about my sex life with my husband. She’s
asking me if I go pee while I’m in the shower. She is asking me all of the things. And I was like, I think
there’s a serious language barrier happening here. But, um, it was not a language barrier. And then she
gave me this like dildo basically, and she plugged it into her computer and she’s like, You’re gonna put
this inside of you. And I started like this screen came to life and she’s telling me that my job, like the
thing that’s inside of me is like the blue dot that’s on the screen and you’ll see it goes up and down. And
by contracting and releasing your pelvic floor, you are gonna get the blue dot in and out of the lines and
around the screen. And you’re like playing video games with your vagina. It’s like an Nintendo game for
your vagina that gives you electric shock. And so like imagine this is happening in a foreign country and
you don’t know what’s going on and you don’t have anyone to tell. And I was just like, Oh my God, I can’t
believe. I’m like, I need to go home to tell my husband what is happening here today. And your baby’s
like in the car seat watching you smiling and you’re just like, vagina video games.
Laura Thomson
I love that Doug, our producer behind the scenes right now, is probably like what the fuck happens in
France?
Lana Milner
cover your ears